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0:38 Hello, I'm Gwenm. I'm your host of Skin and Soul Beyond the Pale and welcome. So today when Beth Lynch and I first spoke, we were meant to schedule a podcast meeting and instead what showed up was my father, a name, some blue butterflies, a young girl with hats. And what brought me to eventual tears was, were the words, you're beautiful. Beth is an evidential medium. Oh, I already got goosies. Meditation teacher and author of Life, Death and In Between. She's also the founder of Inner Light Teaching.
1:10 Beth says that there is more than one mate for the soul and that in spirit, love is no longer governed by jealousy, rank or possession. So what happens to the body, to love when we leave the body? And I'm going to talk about that. And what might the dead teach the living about love here and now? So welcome, Beth. Hello. Thank you for having me. Oh, my pleasure. So just to begin, I think I'd love to just get a little bit of an overview of the difference between, let's say, a medium and someone who is very empathic and intuition.
1:46 And I know I just can. You can let us know a little bit around how you discovered these magical inner powers. Yeah, I like that magical inner power that we all have access to, by the way. I think, you know, the difference between so the question was the difference between the mediumship and empathy. Intuition, let's say. Intuition and the goosebumps and that sometimes solar plexus explosion into a gut feeling. OK, all of that is connected, but it is all through empathy, which is the feeling of emotion.
2:22 Now, when we and I know you and your audience have heard the term law of attraction. That law is very sacred. It is very natural and it is very powerful. It is always working. So when we put out a thought, my empathy, I'm too empathic and it ruins my day. I feel everything around me. We are thinking, feeling beings. That's all we do is think and feel. And our creation is coming from that formula. Another moment there. But so when you start saying my empathy is sacred, my empathy is my superpower.
2:59 My empathy protects me. Now you're changing the frequency of your relationship and how you relate to empathy, which now helps your intuition guide you and connect you. How was that for an answer? That's a great answer. And then when you layer on top of the mediumship, because that's a whole other channel to be able to connect. And I think everyone connects differently. And I'd love to hear a little bit about how you connect. Because one thing I've heard you say is that mediums often have to be careful that they're not having these interpretations.
3:32 And the way you bring things in is that you just say what's there without having interpretations sort of on it. So. Yeah. So when I look at mediumship and it took, you know, I had to become very comfortable with that title. And I've been doing it for a long time. And I've been doing it professionally, if you will, for 30 years, over 30 years now, maybe 33. And then there's another 30. I didn't know what was happening to me where I would feel everything. I was overly sensitive.
4:02 Right. But what little did I know was because I was so open, the emotional downloads were overloading the nervous system. They'll do. They were doing it to me. They're doing it to everybody. So we're kind of went back into empathy a little bit. But when you look at mediumship as a whole. When you look at mediumship as mediation between the spiritual realm and the physical realm or mediation between your higher self and your lower self. We're all talking to ourselves anyway. Constantly. I don't know. Most people will say I don't have to turn it off.
4:31 I can't turn it off. And I said, you're not supposed to turn it off. You might want to think about learning to turn it down. Turn down the volume. I've had to learn that. So when you, you know, when you're if I say to everyone, you know, listen, we've been talking about this. We're all mediating anyway. So why don't you get comfortable with how you're going to mediate between your thoughts and your emotional responses? Now you're balancing everything. And where did I go with the question?
4:56 Did I go off topic? I thought I was heading to it. Okay. All right. Yeah. So when you understand the meaning of it, I think you can actually say, you know, everybody has that natural ability. Just where is your brain? Where is your brain? Where is your mind? Where is your mind? Where is your mind? Where is your mind? Where is your mind? Where is your mind? Where is your volume? Now, in my case, I was very sensitive. As I can remember as a child, as a teenager, overly sensitive, overly feeling things would always wonder why I had to feel things so deeply.
5:27 And why couldn't I just be like everybody else and not feel things? Well, I don't know what other people were really processing, you know, but I do know I had there was something going on, you know. And then when my I remember when my dad passed over 30 years old. Over 35 years ago now. I remember that week feeling death around me and I had no understanding of why I felt that. Why do I feel death? Am I being told I'm going to die? Am I supposed to prepare?
5:55 Is this what happens? You know, I was 29 years old, 28 years old. And I was going to go talk to a priest because I knew I had my faith, which was I was very comfortable with. But I hadn't gone to church in a couple of decades, you know. But I said, well, I guess that's okay. Right. I'll go talk to somebody about it. And that Monday, I remember Saturday night saying it to a friend and Monday morning, my dad died of a massive heart attack.
6:22 And then you fast forward three more years and I dream. I'm dreaming it that over an intercom system, I'm hearing that my mother was dead. Like literally she is dead. And I started screaming in the dream and I woke up and I was very anxious and, you know, tears were coming down my eyes. I'm like, what kind of dream is this? What kind of dream was that? And I looked at the clock and it was 315 a.m. Somehow I fell back to sleep. I kind of think I was energetically knocked out because I was so shook up.
6:53 I don't know how I got back to sleep. And then I woke in the morning to hear on the news the Amtrak train crashed in the middle of the night and my mother was on the train. And she did pass. So that took, you know, physical world red tape to find out. But I did hear her voice in the car on my way to my sister's say, Beth, I'm okay. I'm happy. And I remember just going like looking in the backseat like that's where it sounded like it came from, you know.
7:19 And so very shook up. Go through it. Get the kind of, you know, the condition, all that happens. And a year later, my sister and I went to a medium because we were upset. We were angry. You know, we just didn't know. We're in our early at that point. We're very I'm in my early 30s. You know, we're just like, what? You know, what's happening in our world? You know, and why God? You know, blame God. Not the one to blame. But yeah. And I went to a medium.
7:46 We went and she looked at us and said our mother was in the spirit world. It was like crossing a bridge and taking a breath. Little. She didn't know our mother died on a train on a bridge. You know what I mean? She just used. There's the metaphors that are very literal that some people even mediums. We don't realize, you know, our metaphors can be that literal when we're giving messages. But then she looked at me and said, you're not using your gifts and abilities. Young lady, you're going to do what I do someday and help many people.
8:10 And I'm thinking she's crazy. That's really what I thought, too. That's so crazy. After all. Yeah, I'm not. So she's not. Within a week, I was, you know, signed up for this tarot class, which I wasn't sure of that. I wasn't even trying to be a medium. If anything, I was know that I can't do that. You know, I was a hairdresser. I was good. You know, I was booked three months out. Leave me alone in my world. You know, I just want to know my parents are OK.
8:37 I mean, just like many people, we want to know if they're OK. Yeah. Are they with us? Are they watching? And that was what really propelled it. It was like just like she said, my mom would guide me to books and teachers. Books would move out of a shelf. A person would come and say, you need to go to this place and check it out. Talk about that stuff you're into. And I'm like, OK. And that's kind of that's really. And then personal meditation. That's the key.
9:01 I tell everybody you can go take every channeling course you want. I teach one. You know, you can go to the England. England to do whatever. There's a big man to take mediumship school there. I go. But if you're not doing your daily practice not to receive to just sit in your light, your divine light to open the channels, I go. You'll be endlessly taking classes and worried about being right. Because when you start having your personal experiences in your meditation time, something that no one could have ever given you in tears are rolling down your cheeks and you feel
9:36 the spirit and you feel your or your love. Your or your loved ones. There are no words for that. That's the space I like to guide people to because I had to find that space kind of in my own way. I did have a place I went to called Delphi in McKaysville, Georgia. I went three different times for a week and it was the first time I heard. And this was in the early 90s. It was the first time I heard the word energy really or, you know, law of attraction.
10:02 This is early 90s. It wasn't out there like it is now, you know, and those were the things that were really important. And those were the things that were triggering me like because you're we're all we all have it in us to go. What's that mean? You know, and that's, you know, that's the magic. And we hand over our power, I think, so easily to someone else. And, you know, whether it's COVID or and I know what's come up a lot is, you know, twin flames and soulmates.
10:28 And and when someone passes, actually had someone say to me once that, you know, when her mom passed, they had a very strained relationship. But then that the relationship continued to grow and heal actually beyond death. And it's something that I've experienced that, you know, those on the other side where I actually don't feel the finality of it. You know, I don't have the same experiences as you, but I just I think I said to you that I, you know, when someone passes, I get extraordinarily tired.
10:59 And it's funny, actually, before this meeting, I got really tired. It's almost like spirit moves to me. It moves to me in a way that I think of myself almost like drowsy, like COVID drowsy or monoclonal. It's true. And it's something to pay attention to because it's yeah, you are obviously. Yeah, it's it's a sign of something, you know, interesting. Yeah, I take it as like a presence or, you know, in those moments that that have happened to me is that, you know, in the moment of passing, that's been very, very strong.
11:33 And now I tend to feel. I think I feel anyway when when a spirit is near because I get that overwhelming feeling. And I thought when I was saying to my roommate today, isn't it crazy? I can't get up like I just can't get up. And then I I was I was I said, oh, listen to my intro. And she goes, of course, you're tired. Oh, there you go. I was just going to say, you know, there's a lot going to go on if I'm in the room.
11:58 So you're picking it up all on all. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not I'm not I'm not even going to profess that. But I think some of the questions that I have for you is, you know, we talk a lot about being, you know, our loved ones being on the other side. And I think some of my curiosity is, you know, the love goes on the teaching that they're there. What does it look like to be on the other side? And and I think we, you know, especially what I love about your book and we'll go there
12:29 as well. You know, I'm also. I got excited. I got excited because you touch on topics that are that are really heartbreaking. I mean, you talk about suicide, you talk about medication and how we medicate ourselves out of out of feeling. And and one thing that I've realized is, you know, it's so important to feel in this body and it doesn't make us less divine. In fact, makes us more divine. It's more divine. And the connection to the other side. So, you know, I'm like, so what are they like?
13:02 What's the connection? What's the connection to the other side? And then on the other side, do they still retain personality? Is it still is the connection still there? I'll let you take it from there. I love that question. You know, the way that they've shown me is we look a lot like holograms, but over in that vibration, that's very dense. So that's, you know, strong. Here, we think of a hologram. It's almost sheer. And I've had two experiences seeing myself in a hologram. The one first time was with a medication experience 38 years ago given to me for hypersensitivity.
13:32 Hyperventilating, going to an ER was not, who knew what anxiety was 38 years ago. You didn't hear those words. You didn't hear any of those mental health terms. And I literally abruptly stopped only after three to two days. And I started to feel weird. And then I saw myself walk by and it was me like invisible, but like a hologram. And at the time I was still a hairdresser. So I did not understand this then. And then I started hearing voices. And, you know, they were not very nice voices and they were telling me to do something that
14:06 was not very nice. Luckily, I called a friend and that situation was put, lay to rest. I didn't understand it. She said, you can't just stop like that. And I said, well, I won't take that if that's what it's going to do to me. Then that situation was, like I said, laid to rest for a long time. 15 years later now, you know, my mother, my mother had passed and all that had gone on. And I, you know, started getting into meditation and really learning about how to understand
14:32 it. All that, then my experiences were getting stronger and I was starting to see real, get names and then it just opened the door. But the, I don't know why I'm losing my train of thought today. It's like, what's going on? Oh, so the hologram, that's where we were. So I saw myself another time as a hologram, but it was much lighter of an incident. And we are, we're very sheer looking, kind of in a glitter way. But what brought me to this? But what brought me to seeing the hologram, which is our higher self, the part that continues,
15:06 the essence of the purest love, the most illuminated being that we are, the one that gets, gets excited when we want to know more about meditation or we want to take a class on spiritual understanding. And, and then that's the part, that's what we look like in spirit. But this little moment I had was me looking at these two tattoos and one is my third eye. It's kind of hard to see. There's my third eye. And then my little, my rose, I love my purple rose, right?
15:36 And my third eye. And I was looking at them one day going, God, I'm going to miss you guys when I have no skin. And I just had this silly little conversation because when you're in that, when you're in spirit world, you don't have tissue. So I guess there can't be ink. And I kind of laughed at myself for having such a silly little conversation with myself daily. I do these things, but I did, I let it go. Didn't think anything more. I'm going to miss you too.
16:00 Just like that. The next day in my just little meditation time to slow down, breathe, just go to the inner light of the heart. I started seeing a woman and she had her hand going like this and there was a stream and I could see the water glittering down and she just kept doing it. And I'm in the meditative state, but I'm very aware. I'm going, is that a spirit guide? Who's this lady? And I'm asking questions like I'm in there and I'm seeing it and I'm feeling emotional about it.
16:26 Like, who is this? A spirit guide? And all of a sudden it zoomed in on my arm and these two tattoos were completely glittered, glittering. And I went, oh, my tattoos. I said, that's me, dad. And I swear she turned and smiled because I'm like, I was like, that's me. I mean, that must be what it's going to look like. And if I want to keep them again, then I got a little excited like a kid. But so I have seen the hologram energy and luckily I have the positive, the more positive one now that I do like to really keep.
16:58 I wouldn't say the other one was negative. It was just the experience that made it pop out. That's that was more of a negative light experience. That's my term for negative, by the way. Negative light. The gate of light. Yeah. So add light. So in the spirit world, we're very much like that. I've seen water. It's almost like looking at nature without. It may sound weird, the dangers. And I've had experiences like that where, like, I'm not going to go hiking where there's bears. It's not happening because I'm not going to go.
17:27 It's not happening because I'm the one the bears find. Okay. It is the story of my life with any little creepy thing that could happen. They attract to me for no reason that I've done anything that's just vibrational. And so I'm the one that the bear will come find. Okay. And and so I don't do things like that. But one time I was walking by these woods and I said, my God, why am I so afraid to just walk in there? It's so beautiful. And I am to a to a fault.
17:52 I will not go into places like that, even though they're beautiful. And I heard a voice tell me. On this side, there's no danger. You will walk amongst them. And and I just went, wow. And I understand it because even in the wild, you know, you could walk by the spirit of a bear, the spirit of horses. And, you know, so if we're using a bear, for example, that was my little fear walking into this little woodway. The spirit of the bear is not doesn't need to eat, doesn't need to feel protected.
18:25 Just like our own spirit doesn't need to be protected. Our own spirit doesn't need to feel that we feel very safe. We still very natural in that state. And that's the transition we make from the personality in the human body that can still be, you know, go through the fear vibration. The spirit has no, no fear. None. In terms of connection to spirit and those that have passed, you know, listening to some readings, sometimes you hear couples come through or the spouse of another. and if we keep growing on the other side, I don't know if you can answer this, is why do we need the body to begin with?
19:25 300 to 600 of our years that we start to sometime there's no time in spirit there's it's a human concept and so holograms don't have to age you know if i'm using the hologram but the you can stay where you want to stay or you can morph a little younger i've seen elder people cross look oh i'm in my 40s visualize me in my 40s not like that sick person on that bed you know heard things like that many times but um you um my goodness girl i just keep losing my train of
19:57 thought i'm getting a little nervous i get nervous but i'm jumping ahead you know that's all intuitive people are add just for the record every single one of us okay because we feel and we go in too fast and then we lose train of thought or focus that's what it is by the way so um the spirit world has a whole another thing about that so oh so when we come back we want to come back because we we tend to have this natural i don't know if yearning is the word to want to come back
20:25 and be in a physical form sometimes that is to experience life with another person and complete maybe a soulmate you know relationship and we do have more than one soulmate by the way we have usually like three as the average i've heard um and so we want to come back oh i just wanted i want to stop you there because i was like yeah i i always assumed that it was like hundreds or thousands of people that were in that relationship and i'm like oh my god i'm in my 40s i'm in my
20:49 we're in our early — at that point we're very… I'm in my early thirties. i don't know why um because somebody said oh yeah you know that there's all kinds of but i think i'm with you i think that the soulmate number is probably pretty low um and then all those soul mates that are created like i mean you can have yeah yeah and there's that so um and i and i don't want to stop you from your train of thought but i didn't want to pick up one of one of our chats
21:11 which is you brought in the woman whose five husbands came in i was just thinking of her see your psychic abilities are right there girl i'm just thinking of her i'm just thinking of her i'm i was thinking of her it's a great story and did you want me to share it absolutely okay yeah so when you know when we're talking about soulmates and and you know when you're working with people you know through readings and intuitive and consulting and just you know it's more of a
21:36 psychic level reading they want sometimes too and there's a little bit of a difference but i i can always explain that if you want um my lord i really am getting nervous oh so the mate we have me a little bit of a difference but i can always explain that if you want um mates of the soul we do mates of the soul and they get focused like this ending of this relationship this was my soulmate i just know it we had too many of this too many of that
21:59 i'm like listen take a breath you're going to have about three in your life that are very significant you may have one less you may have a couple more i don't know but we all have it we can't grow old physically with all of them okay it's not going to be possible you know so you will see them again over on the other side and you'll be able to slap them in the face or say you know we should be together want to go back you know whatever you're going to say to them
22:23 but it's important to know that the relationships that we're having that feel that energy yes you've probably had a past life yes there's a vibrational connection that is so strong but it is not always meant to grow old with so it is a mate of the soul so the lady who and we're going to have those so the one woman who i spoke of she was 87 she came for a reading and the first one of the things i said was this name and she oh that's my husband
22:53 then i said a second name right in a row i mean these guys i said i do that every reading i'm a book for three years the next guy came in oh that's my second husband then i said another name that's my third husband we got to five i'm like my god and this is so adorable i said work it is 87 you know she said each one died in a decade the first one died in his 30s second one died in the 40s 50 60 70 i go well number five it says you're working on a book and i'm
23:19 number six and she started laughing no we're just gonna have coffee i'm tired i'm dying first he nobody's dying on me now and then i said well husband number one and two are moving down a step telling three to go to the top of the staircase and it was very titanic staircase like i don't know if james cameron knew what he was channeling in when he did that scene but it's very powerful you know and that's where jack waited rose and if you remember she morphed to her younger self
23:48 because jack was you know young very real seen it with especially people losing children seen that many times and then i said so number three is at the top of the staircase and she just looked at me and said i loved all my husbands but the third was closest to my soul i said that's it i'm throwing in the towel this is the best ever you know what i mean do we need we don't i mean and she goes no really and and you know it showed us me especially well she always wondered if number one and two
24:18 gotten an argument because i said number two held his fist up to number one but they're laughing they're okay they want me to tell you it's okay she goes well number one he was not very nice to me we were young or something and she goes and number two was his best friend and we used to go have coffee only coffee well until he died this is what she said and she said and i used to tell him how he treated me and he used to say i want to punch him in the face and i used to say you can't do that then we
24:47 can't have coffee anymore and then her first husband ended up passing away so she got with number two so isn't it funny how they showed me and you know they were okay you know and i believe number one apologize there was some definitely some endearing messages from that um yeah but that's you know so over there you're not going to have that human you know you're not getting a sense of security you're not needing one from a human being you know it's in your spirit to be secure and feel that sense
25:17 of security and love yourself and love your family and love yourself and love your family and love yourself and love yourself and love your family and love yourself and love yourself and love yourself more than you need another's love you know need another's love that kind of love you know we all need love but we we can only feel it to the level we allow ourselves to be in our own love with who we are spiritually and physically human yeah that's all here as i was
25:36 talking yesterday with with another um guest and just talking about the self-love you know um that it's not about i mean we have needs as humans but that the love is not the same as the love that we have as humans and that's the way that we are and that's the way that we are and that's the way that we are and that's the way that we are already here and you know that on the other side you don't have that competition for absolutely i i have to say like i have this experience where i always thought oh if so and so dies
26:01 i'm i'm like kind of horrified at them knowing me right like knowing all of me and my bad habits and you know you think of those things like oh my god did you see that i passed gas and i picked my nose i don't know we're humans we're like i had that thought you know but i i was really surprised to find that actually i'm very much at peace with like the idea of those that i love on the other side of of knowing me without a like just not having a filter i i actually find that
26:31 as an interesting experience um yeah and i love that i love that that's a beautiful way to say i keep seeing a man with a saw like when they saw something do you have somebody over there who would work with tools like that i don't know if it's your dad or somebody else but my dad i was like oh my god i'm so surprised to find that actually i'm very much at peace with like the saw what about our girl in the background because sometimes my it's just somebody my
26:56 my former wife would pick up a saw for sure oh is she in spirit yeah yeah yeah then that's her so yeah no she'd pick up sorry i didn't mean to call her a he no no no no she would be the one with the tools this big smile look to her with the saw going say this say this right now she no problem interrupting the show right yeah so that's her oh my god i was gonna say and i know because we're not live but i i do like if anything but
27:26 if anything ever comes through like whoever might be listening watching please just feel free i just did and then you saw somebody with a saw looking at us right now you know with a smile on their face oh my god that's so cool that's cool yeah oh i'm getting a ring now what's up with the ring say the ring you have a ring from her i do and you know what i lost it and it's come back to me so i thought it was gone for good and i was
27:56 really um see that again chokes me up because well yeah because she's saying you're welcome right she's like she's yeah i was like please and i was like okay maybe i'm just meant to let it go but i could just feel myself constantly be like oh no the ring yeah and it and it just showed up actually just like a week ago or so and well she's telling you it was her she's taking credit for whatever yeah navigating the right place or whatever no i didn't yeah yeah it's um i left and and uh i left
28:25 it somewhere and i was like are you sure it's not there and they were like no it's not here sorry and then i got a call a message that said oh i found it underneath these things and i was like you're getting a kiss on the cheek too yeah yeah just for the record there's no exes as they say to me in spirit there's no ex no they're all everybody's on the staircase hanging out and you'll go talk to who you want and hang out more with who you want it's very natural over there
28:53 it's very i find um it is a piece it's so full of love and you know it's almost sad that our world not you not me not this show not people even listening but some are probably searching for that love of again and maybe we'll we're going to show them that begin here you know because then you draw that level to you you know what i mean and otherwise you're going to draw the search someone who may need it more than you and then we get into you know relationships that aren't going
29:23 to be healthy no or to recognize it you know not to go further and deeper into them right i mean we all have those options yeah it's interesting yeah i wanted to say you know there's there's things themes that you touch on in your book that i was really touched by because you don't shy away from the you know the topics of suicide people who are unable and i like the way you described it which was you know you have a spirit that is so cannot cope with all of the sensations the i am i hope i'm saying it right that's just the
29:54 overload of the system of everything that's coming at them from the outside world and i think there's like a story even just um about a young man who is autistic who ended up having heart failure right but who couldn't show up in in the world the way he wanted to but and and was just overloaded by um what the world was imprinting yeah he was interesting i forgot about that story and what was interesting is he literally showed me coming out of the birth canal when i was with
30:24 the woman and then electrical currents like electrifying him and i knew it was symbolic but i did not know he was autistic at the time and she told me and then i said and he just said the world's inner vibration was too much for him and i and you know i go he just couldn't so what happens is there's a lockdown and that lockdown can be verbal it can be anything everything too and that's how the only way he could cope with existing and then i said something
30:54 about the heart and she goes oh well he died of a heart attack and i go oh i thought what he just explained to me was something and she goes no he was autistic but what what made him pass was his heart and she goes but that makes such sense to how he was he was non-verbal you know and you know and he just and he he lived to his 30s he was that he was still young but he was still a little bit older but he was still a little bit older but he was still a little bit older
31:19 but um but she said literally you know coming out of the birth canal she they knew that there was something and that was so crazy how he brought me there and showed me from that moment entering the earth's frequency he overloaded you know and then there's other reasons for overload we all know there's vaccinations there's there's a lot of reasons for overload you know what i mean and and i think his was more the natural one you know what what he was showing and that was a long time
31:47 ago that was like 20 something years ago and i think that's what he was showing and i think that's years ago i read her i'll never forget it very interesting but when you when you you know when you listen to the autistic you know things you learn about it and and is i don't have anyone personally but i you know through children and working with other people and it makes sense it's an overload of frequency yeah makes well and we don't teach our kids as one of the things that
32:11 i think is really missing out of schools is is is a teaching of you know start to meditating in kindergarten right it's like they're like they're learning a version of meditation whether it's in movement or sitting still or and and building the capacity and teaching self-love so that um because it's it is a feeling again there's another story you talk about a young woman who has so much feeling and i remember growing up and having so much feeling and having uh no understanding for it and i think you know
32:39 um i had a very deep connection to the divine but it wasn't wasn't common in my family it wasn't it wasn't something that right so it was it was but it was a very deep connection to the divine and i it was there and so um the frequency I think was quite low because I had no idea how to um I'm going to say move it through my system and just have definitions for it connect it to something greater um but I I love the idea you know when you talk about like you know those
33:09 people that are in pain to really come into this deep self-love and to keep coming back and not just use meditation as like a mantra um but that it's a deep um connection to the self and then yeah so yeah beautifully said beautifully said though and it's true I got it you really read my book thank you what'd you think about the Einstein story did you get there did you get to the Einstein story it might be more toward the end no I read them all I I read it all but I'm not remembering
33:40 the Einstein when I was meditating about Ted yeah walking down the hallway you remember that no no maybe I was caught up in other stories geez I hope when they edited it they didn't take it out oh no because people have said I love the Einstein story and I'm like oh my god I almost didn't put it in there and my editor said oh you're putting that in there and I'm like oh my god they're gonna think I'm crazy but I don't care yeah excuse you want to share the yeah so when I first started getting into meditation and this
34:12 has to be over 30 years ago I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do it but I'm going to do it definitely and I didn't understand it but I was very comfortable with more spiritually aligned meditations like prayer and you know breathing slowly it was kind of natural for me yoga I was into yoga you know now I have no pretzel by any means but I would like to go to yoga and get into that space and so I was getting more into it because I knew after that meditation mediumship
34:36 experience it was just guided there I think that's really so I started reading more more about it and so I was really comfortable with my little quiet go to the inner light and I was like oh my god I'm going to go to the inner light of the heart which I'm still that's still my work and then I said there's more to meditation than this I know there is so I took a Silva class not even knowing who Jose Silva was at the time and do now and I remember I took a weekend program and I went
34:59 well they're just not saying god you know they're saying energy source and I'm like okay then all right they don't want to say god it's cool it keeps it a little more open for people who don't want to hear god the word you know and and I said but there's still more and I you know I don't know who I'm talking to at the time the divine the universe is listening somebody's always listening that I can tell you and I was saying that like there's still something missing more
35:22 like an intelligence to this like an intelligence and I I mean I was a straight d student when I graduated high school I I could read something 10 times and not comprehend I struggled they like I said I'm 67 they did not have a name for it back then okay a pill for it thank god and um and so I remember thinking there's just more to it intelligence so I let it be I figured I had something will fall on my lap and I it was
35:50 probably the next day I was doing my little 10 minute day meditation breathe just no expectation no messages needed I just want to sit in the light and all of a sudden I saw myself walking down while I'm walking I think it was more like electric sidewalk kind of feel and um I was going down a hallway the floors were hardwood I could see it there were candle operas lighting the way and as I'm being you know moving down toward it I saw my grandfather sitting at a
36:20 desk and I kind of had this I don't ever remember him sitting at a desk moment you know he wasn't that kind of guy and but as I got closer he looked up like this and I went Einstein swear full-on in front of me like I'm looking at you and I'm like okay I know I'm in a meditative state but I know I'm very awake I'm not just dreaming and he goes you called I go oh I called you I go I don't know about that he goes you asked about the intelligence the highest
36:50 intelligence the most divine intelligence we are here waiting if you need ideas whatever he kind of said something like that we are here all you have to do is call on us now I'm sitting there going this is really happening and I was the person I could read a quote from Einstein and go what is he talking about I I had no clue you know MC squared that is about as far as I got right I mean whatever it is and so I'm having this like it was happening very quickly and I'm like
37:20 oh my God and I in my moment I was like that's the that's the element it's intelligent you reach a certain level of frequency where intelligence you know I'm kind of having my own little moment and all of a sudden he winked at me and he said I watch over the boy and I went the boy and it shook me out of the meditation I kind of like caught my bearings said whoa that was crazy I don't want to believe me and I'm telling but anyway I know what I experienced you know
37:48 um kind of like in Stevie Nick's song Crystal Visions I keep my visions to myself I mean there's unloaded ones in there that have never been put out and then I had a three-year-old son so he said I watch over the boy it's three or so well kind of took me out of it a little so I had my moment the next night I'm in the bathroom my little three-year-old is in the bathtub blowing bubbles with his hand making the beard you know little three-year-olds do
38:14 and I'm cleaning the vanity and I'm look watching him in the mirror and he goes Mommy howdy-dy and I go Honey again he's gonna say his grandfather's because they both you know he never knew them physically and he said Einstein and I went what what and he goes Einstein howdy-dy and I go I don't know how do you know Einstein he goes talks to me all the time and I go what's he say and he goes I don't know and he's blowing bubbles he's thinking nothing I'm like, wow.
38:40 And he goes, I don't know. And he's blowing bubbles. He's thinking nothing of that, right? And I'm like, wow. This was before baby Einstein, mind you. They were not learning that in daycare or wherever he was at that point. He was three. So is that still daycare? And so I was like, oh, my God. So the next day I went into his daycare, dropped him off. And I said, hey, do you guys talk about Einstein? Like, Mrs. Lynch, they're three-year-olds. I go, yeah, I just had to ask.
39:07 Well, out of the mouth of babes, they do. I mean, come on. I remember my son in Buddha posture, like in a very, very, like as an, you know, basically as an infant. And I was like, oh. And he was still. And I was, you know, I could just feel the wisdom. And he is. You know, my son is today 31 and just has that embodiment of wisdom. And mine's 26. And he still carries the whole energy. I think we're so similar. Yeah. And it's funny because I was just watching.
39:42 It's when you talked about intelligence. And I have just recently read a quote around Einstein. And I've been reading a book called The Science of Creating Miracles. And how essentially Einstein was very connected to the divine. Like never doubted that there was a greater consciousness. And is basically talking about the intelligence and expanding our awareness. Right? Our windows. And I never knew that about him. About a few weeks later, a friend sent me. Time magazine. And he was on the cover. And I read it cover to cover.
40:12 And I was like in tears because I was like, I had no idea this man was on a, you know, the quest of spirituality and how it fit in and the things that he went, you know, I had no idea. I knew nothing about. He intimidated me while he doesn't anymore. But and the next day we were in the it was all happening in that one week. We were in Martin T. J. Max or something. And he was in the cart and we're cruising around for retail therapy.
40:36 And he goes, Mommy, there's Albert. And I turn around. Like. What? And there's the sign of Einstein with imagination and intelligence. This lady goes, oh, smart one. You got there. I go, if you only knew. I go, I don't know what that's about. So I bought. He wanted me to buy the poster. I bought the poster. I hung in his room for decades. Yeah. This is the right on his closet door. Oh, my goodness. The stories. You had written at one point and I'm just going to bring it back into the world of the
41:07 divine. So what's
41:39 vices like addiction addictive patterns will be in the lower desire vibration in the personality but in the spiritual vibration the divine desire area we do not have those lower desires first of all we understand them in a whole different way but we do not have a body that can chemically actually get into that frequency because up there that frequency doesn't exist so when we understand that that which you know in some teachings i'll do you know which let's get in tune with which desire body's ruling here you know what i mean and there's little exercises you can do to do that
42:18 to get into the separation and actually see and feel the difference and that's you know human desire is not bad desire but it's a lower frequency it can get in a lower place where it's very uncomfortable especially when you're talking about addictive patterns you know and you desire the physical magnetism you know you need it for your body you know and then there's different levels of that you know there's once the body's clear of an addictive you know vice or something then it's all mind so you've got to make sure your mind goes into its higher desire vibration so the
42:52 emotions will follow and you won't magnetically reconnect it's one of the biggest well and i was going to say but then sex can also be a higher vibration absolutely absolutely the realms of love yeah i just want to make sure that's not it's like yeah you have sex is um in its more divine expression is is beautiful but sex in its lowest expression is addictive and you know you you know move blow up a mountain to get to it you know and you make choices in it and again and then there's so many little digits in between those two
43:27 and you know it's like when sometimes that soulmate energy gets confused because the sexual is so strong the physical attraction is so strong you can think of each other and call you know what i mean you can it's just there's every people have experienced it it's it's real but if it's not for the higher good or for your own true divine expression of who you are it's it becomes a lower desire on that scale well especially when soulmate is getting confused with wounding i mean and they might still be soulmates that are working through
44:00 wounding but it could also just be wounding um excuse me projecting onto um someone else and then that meshing right um as opposed to i always think of soulmates like you know in its highest expression is and i don't know how many people get there but you know being clear channels coming together or working towards being clear channels together yeah i think that's a great way to explain it you you your vibration is up in that zone together or pretty darn close so you're not exactly the same vibrationally but yeah you got to be able
44:34 to resonate and be in that vibration that's i like the way you said that that was nice would you call grief um a lower vibration or a higher yeah grief is the lowest experience of emotion that we experience in the physical world grief is the lowest and then there's different degrees of grief you know i just came from helping parents heal conference in phoenix for a week we're there working with families the love that you feel in this conference there are no words there are no words there are no
45:06 words and there are no words there is so and every single person in there has lost children you know that we're working with and there's 11 over a thousand that are there attending and but the love energy you just i just no words so grief is is the lowest frequency we'll experience as a human being but our spiritual nature understands that grief and can support us and that's where the divine energy or you want to call it you know the divine energy is the lowest frequency we'll experience
45:36 our higher self or the god your god the connection to god in the universe that's where in that kind of depth of grief people cut off like why and matt i did it i was mad at god for a long time you know why would you take my parents well i realize that's not what's really going on you know no one's taking them and yeah so grief is one of the lowest frequencies the hardest frequencies but we're wired to go through it through our higher nature or higher frequency or just divine
46:06 self that's where the support comes in but it's it is the hardest i've heard it said that you know grief that the depth of grief is also the measure of love right and i'm not talking about depression i think depression it becomes the the disease around the locked in grief that the grief that doesn't get to move but that grief is the other it's it's part of the spectrum of loving and loss it's very true and i think that what i just experienced in phoenix where i went i've been
46:35 there twice now is exactly that definite definition it's right there because there's so much love in the depths of that grief that you're that we're dealing with when we're there helping as mediums it's just but the love just over just takes over yeah for all of us there it's almost hard to come back to the day after you're usually in that attitude and a lot of people write about it you know on the page and and you you know it's because there's such a high in the depths of that grief so it's just kind of explaining how you what you
47:12 asked you know it there is the purest love of spirit in grief and there's such a fine line and you just got to get over that line a little bit and then it supports you differently and i think most people probably when they come to see you um and they're in deep pain there's just wanting the recognition that the love is still there that the connection is still there there's something still in existence that even if they can't see it um that it still exists i would
47:42 imagine absolutely everybody you know i think everybody is you know and i just create the space for that for them to feel it you know and that's what's important just like me seeing someone sawing you know what if i didn't tell you that and look you knew exactly where it was gonna go i didn't know what it was gonna mean i can't try to figure that out you know but it was just this big smile and say that she's gonna know it's me you know and and you did and that's the beauty of it and that's the connection
48:09 yeah i still remember when you said oh there's a young girl with hats and it just clicked immediately i was like oh my gosh you know and it's not the first time i've had that soul come through um because i've had um you know a few readings in my life um and i it's funny because i didn't actually encounter death until much later in my life uh which i found very fortunate except for my grandmother who had passed when i was about to die 21 so um and then and then i got pregnant not too long after which i always said was
48:42 a gift from my grandmother divine intervention there divine intervention or divine conception divine conception in a way i was like oh this is a gift i think absolutely right that's so beautiful i was like it's a it's a gift okay taking it on um i'm just gonna show you a little bit of my own life and then i'm gonna show you a little bit of my own life and then i'm gonna show you a little bit of my own life and then i'm gonna shift us i always ask 10 questions um based on james lipton's the actress studio this is my own
49:10 version so um i'm going to start with what is one truth your body has always known that your mind took years to catch up to so oh that my mind um the power of the connection i think long before i even understood energy my solar plexus my gut i would get i can pain that would and then within 24 hours something was happening like it was a pain so my body and i know now the solar plexus is the stomach and that's where all the intuitive centers and
49:40 nerve centers are crossing inside energetically and physically so that was something interesting good question thank you what is the most intimate moment you've ever had that had nothing to do with sex um holding my son my newborn yeah that was so intimate in a different way you know i mean but but yeah definitely it flashed right in front of me yeah i had that experience of being in absolute love and awe if you could be remembered for one sensation you gave someone what would it be how to heal how to heal grief is that yeah like a sense yeah like that to bring
50:20 them through that and help them thank you if pleasure were a language what would your first word be i felt love i didn't even have a second thought if your erotic life had a title like a novel or a film what would it be be called oh my god bad girl just bad i do oh bad girl i thought you were telling me love it fun girl but no regret girl all of the above all of the above what is one thing that you have never said out loud that
51:03 you wish someone would ask you about what is one thing that i wish somebody would ask me about i honestly don't nobody's ever asked me i've been asked a lot of questions you know um just for myself though i'm dumbfounded come back to that one after and from the living i should say oh yeah yeah maybe that right they might have asked you on the other side maybe maybe that's the other question um what part of your erotic self are you still afraid to bring to the light
51:35 if i was to say that i think i'm pretty expressive so and i'm taking erotic as like the more sexual yeah okay got the right word arrows yeah aliveness yeah no i feel i'm pretty expressive there i don't hold much in i'm pretty open book what dies when you pretend and what comes alive when you don't oh wow what dies when i pretend i think truth you know truth will hurt some people and you have it may sound weird but sometimes you have to let truth just die for now for this lifetime because it's going to hurt
52:19 somebody else like and then how it was the second part and what comes alive in you when you don't pretend just everything light just laughter just me just myself comfort that's a good question you're tough you tough question but they're good questions i like them finish this sentence when i leave this life i want my skin to remember i want my skin to remember how many of my tattoos but i've according to what i've experienced they're coming with me anyway i want my skin to remember the expression the expression yeah thank you and if the soul has
53:00 a scent what does yours smell like today rose rose do we want to go back to that other question yeah what was it let's see what comes out uh if uh what is the one thing that you've never said out loud that you wish someone would ask you about living or from the other side of the realm i don't know why that stumps me so much maybe i've been asked so many things that there's not much i couldn't be asked the word why comes and i think
53:29 there's if i was to look into what i feel now with that question is maybe there's choices i've made in life that i chose to keep in and if they asked why they would know they would understand it but on earth they would not thank you and before we wrap up i'm just going to ask if there's anything that you want to impart um speak out to anyone today i think to truly believe that knowing who you are your heart your spirit will guide you and protect you in life as a human being and to
54:04 to devote to the life of your life and to the life of your life and to the life of your life thank you thank you for joining us and if anybody wants to um meet with beth um it is innerlightteaching.com correct yeah out and other than that uh thank you for joining us today i will see you again next week and it is a wrap thank you for listening to skin and soul with me Gwenm join me fridays at 10 a.m pst on transformation talk radio catch the podcast anytime on your favorite
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